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    Macro Lens IS or not?

    How important is it to have IS on the macro? I'm looking at the 60mm f/2.8 USM or spend the extra cash on 100mm f/2.8L IS USM?

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    The 100L is tits. I would definitely go for that if you have the extra money to spend. One of the sharpest lenses Canon makes.
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    What did you think of my 100mm Brian? Personally, after having the non IS/L, I still want to have IS. I know if shooting with a fast enough shutter the shot will be clear and not blurry, but I don't like how much I move around when shooting close and don't have a tripod. You didn't do much macro-ing on Sunday, but I'll let you use it more another day. I also like the fact that the IS/L is weather sealed, so I wouldn't worry too much about if it rains or water somehow gets splashed on it, like if I'm doing water drop shots or I'm at the falls and the mist spray comes at me.

    See my thread below for more info from Lisa and Rich. Check out their photos with the non IS/L. (same as the one I bought)

    http://forums.mycanikon.com/showthre...g-macro-lenses
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    I've heard great things about the 100L macro. It's what I plan on getting.

    As far as the IS goes, it's helpful on longer focal lengths like the 100mm.
    The lens is not only a macro lens, it works fine for other styles of photography as well.
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    Also keep in mind that the EF-S Canon 60mm f/2.8 Macro is for crop sensor bodies only. If you plan on going FF you'll have to sell the 60mm and buy an EF macro.
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    I would say that IS is not necessary, but definitely preferred... when shooting in a macro condition, where everything is magnified, even the slightest shake of the hands is transmitted. not only that, but the DOF on a macro is extremely shallow. That being said, I've gotten along fine with the standard non L/IS. so if you have the funds, I'd say go for the L, if you don't, no worries.
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    With macro are you supposed to be shooting with a tripod 9/10 times? I usually don't travel with or like using tripods.

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    If your shutter speed is high enough, hand held is the way to go. The 60mm will have a shorter working distance than 100mm meaning you have to get closer to the subject. Depending on what you're shooting this might not be an issue, but with insects, it's always better to have a longer wd. As for IS Macro, I don't really know how helpful that would be esp if you have moving subjects. If your shutter speed is slow enough to cause blur on stationary subjects, IS will fix that. If your subject continues to move though, IS won't actually help you. Like TomTom said though, if you're shooting portraits and your subjects are stationary, IS would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonDM View Post
    If your shutter speed is high enough, hand held is the way to go. The 60mm will have a shorter working distance than 100mm meaning you have to get closer to the subject. Depending on what you're shooting this might not be an issue, but with insects, it's always better to have a longer wd. As for IS Macro, I don't really know how helpful that would be esp if you have moving subjects. If your shutter speed is slow enough to cause blur on stationary subjects, IS will fix that. If your subject continues to move though, IS won't actually help you. Like TomTom said though, if you're shooting portraits and your subjects are stationary, IS would help.
    This is correct, but like I said earlier... the DOF rules are much different when shooting macro. f/2.8 on a nice portrait lens is near impossible to use on the macro.
    Let's take a look at the last ring shot I did.... it's pretty average in terms of settings.


    The exif data is ISO 1600, f/8, 1/250th of a second.. shot with 100 macro f/2.8 on a 5DmkII

    OK...so we all fight the high ISO battle, we all want to keep it as low as possible. The 5dmkII is one of the best for high ISO noise, but still, I don't want to push it if I don't have to. For hand-holding, my general rule of thumb is 1/focal length.. so this would be 1/100th, but like I described earlier... the tinist shake is magnified when looking at something in macro... so i double my rule of thumb. That puts me at 1/200th. Now look at the pic, remember the aperture is f/8. The rings are maybe an inch in diameter (at most). The focus point is the main diamond... see the back side of the ring? already blurry. See the lower part of the invitation, way out of focus, and that's at f/8.

    what if your camera's high ISO isn't as good. You'll be forced to slow that shutter speed way down, or open that aperture up even more.

    Like I said... is the IS necessary? no. is it preferred? definitely.
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    I really like that rule of thumb. With your ISO that high do you post process to cut out noise? Or that's just how good the body handles ISO?

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    5DmkII as very good at high ISO. ISO-1600 is like ISO-400 on your camera Brian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hawaiian View Post
    I really like that rule of thumb. With your ISO that high do you post process to cut out noise? Or that's just how good the body handles ISO?
    I don't think there's any noise reduction on that one.
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